"For Sweden" (rallybeetle)
10/28/2020 at 12:26 • Filed to: Big Navi, AMD, Radeon
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"For Sweden" (rallybeetle)
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facw
> For Sweden
10/28/2020 at 12:49 |
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Have to see the benchmarks, but the 6800 looks appealing to me. The 3070's 8GB of RAM just feels really weak (it’s where these upper midrange cards were four years ago!). I guess NVidia thinks that you can just use low-res textures and DLSS will make things work out, but I’m doubtful. The 6800XT it potentially a decent amount faster than the 6800, but as the 6800 is already more expensive and more power hungry than I’d like, I’m not sure I can justify the extra $70. I’m certainly not buying any $1000 cards, so no 6900XT for me.
DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back
> facw
10/28/2020 at 13:25 |
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Personally I think people place WAY too much importance on VRAM. I bought my 970 during the whole GTX 970 vs AMD R9 390 debate an d the argument then is that the 390 would have more longevity cause it had 8GB of VRAM, but the reality is they benchmarked very closely at 1080p (which is what I was playing at) and the 390 only started to slightly edge it out at higher resolutions but were talking less than 10fps more on average.
And now here we are 5 years later and on modern games the 390 still benchmarks fairly evenly with the 970...so I don’t buy the longevity argument at all, and I wouldn’t worry about buying the 3070 over the 6800.
IMO, what really it really comes down to is chip architecture, and VRAM tends to be a bit of a marketing thing for AMD. It could be a totally different case here with the new stuff once the benchmarks come out, but I think as usual NVidia will have a slight performance edge at a price premium. However, it is exciting to see AMD compete in the high end GPU arena again.
Now if you do more than just gaming (like rendering, image processing) then the above goes out the window since you would probably want as much VRAM as you can get your hands on.
Nom De Plume
> For Sweden
10/28/2020 at 13:33 |
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Dog, it’s a dog.
Am I reading that right?
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facw
> DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back
10/28/2020 at 13:34 |
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Maybe. Certainly if the card with less RAM is faster in all situations, then it doesn’t matter. I think it could matter for future proofing though, especially right now. Seems like the console cycle still drives game development limiting the stress on gaming PCs but with a new generation, we may see that move again (the new consoles don’t have the ram for super high res textures either, but they will still presumably want to be spending more time on their textures, so we might get higher-res ones on PC).
In any event, hopefully the picture becomes more clear when the benchmarks are out. Regardless, I don’t see myself paying $100 more than I did four years ago for a card with the same amount of RAM (even if it is clearly faster). If the 6800 can’t at least hang with the 3070, then I’ll probably be waiting another year for a 3070ti or something.
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For Sweden
> DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back
10/28/2020 at 13:41 |
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But I want to play Microsoft Flight Simulator
BaconSandwich is tasty.
> For Sweden
10/28/2020 at 13:53 |
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I was just wondering when this announcement was going to happen (as you can guess, I haven’t been paying attention).
What have I missed?
WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAnowbacktoGTI
> For Sweden
10/28/2020 at 13:54 |
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This is why I’ve been holding off making any plans for a 3070 build. I’m excited to see where AMD and Nvidea stack up in the $500 range. Hopefully I can actually get my hands on either by early next year.
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facw
> BaconSandwich is tasty.
10/28/2020 at 14:04 |
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Not too much. Just the announcement today:
AMD says it’s going to be good, but we don’t have benchmarks yet. Reading between the lines a bit at various review sites that are under NDA, it sounds like they will beat Nvidia in performance/price in traditional rendering applications, but fall behind with raytracing on, or when Nvidia cards have DLSS on. But I guess we’ll know about the cards that matter by the 18th.
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BaconSandwich is tasty.
> facw
10/28/2020 at 14:40 |
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Rats. Still too rich for my blood. I was hoping they would announce some low-mid range cards as well.
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facw
> BaconSandwich is tasty.
10/28/2020 at 14:45 |
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There’s been a rumored lower end one, but yeah not coming today (and presumably not before next year at least given that the 6900xt doesn’t launch until 12/8, so if they were coming they would presumably had said do . Seems like your best hope if you are buying soon is to look for current midrange cards getting price drops to stay competitive.
MrDakka
> facw
10/28/2020 at 14:58 |
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Perhaps, but I want to see the benchmark s of a pure AMD build with the “ Smart Access Memory” enabled.